Friday Questions Third Edition

Two weeks ago we started answering your questions about the Wake County Transit Strategy on Friday. This Friday, we’ve got more questions. These came in from the regional Choose Our Transit meetings the last two weeks.

If you have a question for us, leave a comment here on the blog, send us a message on Twitter, or an email. We’ll feature more of your questions next week!


1) Where are stations on the rail line? , With Rapid Rail/DMU trains, what is the stopping distance? How close together can stations be? How many stations are in the rail alternatives and approximately where would they be?,  Where would the RRT stops be on both the coverage and frequency models?

  • Exact station locations will be decided in future stages of project development. However, we will follow good practice by locating stations in areas of high activity such as downtowns and universities, and other locations consistent with local community plans.
  • Station spacing for Rapid Rail Transit depends on many factors but typically is 1-5 miles between stations. This is determined in part by development patterns, but also by stopping distance which varies and depends on the desired speed, the number of railcars, and on terrain. There is an unavoidable trade-off between the access of more stops and the travel time among stops. More stops = better access and slower travel time; Fewer stops = lower access and faster travel time.
  • Many station locations will be considered and the public will have an opportunity to provide input on the locations before a final decision is made.


3) How do you get to Durham on RRT?, How would Wake Co RRT interface with proposed rail in Orange and Durham counties?

The adopted Durham County Transit Plan includes a commuter rail connection to Raleigh along the same North Carolina Railroad corridor shown in the RRT scenarios. If the adopted Wake Transit Strategy includes the regional RRT project, the parties will work together to ensure that there is a “single-seat ride” between Wake and Durham stops on the line.  Connections to Orange County would require a timed-transfer to an express bus at the RTP Station, or a transfer to the Light Rail line under development between downtown Durham and UNC Hospital.


4) What are the estimated travel times with rail and bus from downtown Raleigh to Cary/Airport/RTP?

There is a lot of further analysis that needs to be completed before we have confident estimates of these travel times. It will also depend upon the location in downtown Raleigh and in RTP since the stations for the RRT and BRT are likely to be in different locations.  However, at this time, we can share that the rail travel speeds are assumed to be significantly faster than the bus travel speeds (an average of 45MPH for RRT vs. 20MPH for BRT).  This would result in shorter travel times between the downtown Raleigh station and downtown Cary or the RTP train station.  The bus travel time to RDU Airport would be shorter because it would not require a transfer.


5) For all scenarios, will riders be able to track the next bus/train to come to the stop?

We know that this is a tremendously useful resource for our customers and expect to extend it to all future bus or train services. Currently, customers can track the location of all buses in the Triangle on their computers ( or mobile devices using the TransLoc app. It is also easy to get the next bus arrival information using text messaging. High boarding locations will also be evaluated for digital message signs with real-time arrival information such as already exist at Cary Train Station, the Regional Transit Center, Moore Square, and several other locations.      



6 thoughts on “Friday Questions Third Edition

  • June 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    I may have missed discussion of it, but I would love to hear how more Park and Ride lots could be considered as a way to improve ridership, especially in suburban or rural areas (I.e. Wake Forest and Wakefield areas). Currently, Wake Forest has a single Park and Ride lot that is inconvenient for those south of Hwy 98. This lot serves a single bus route to downtown Raleigh only. I was excited to see a BRT route going from Wake Forest to RTP but I would hope convenient Park and Ride lots are being considered in these less population-dense areas. Thanks!

    • June 5, 2015 at 12:36 pm

      Thanks for the feedback David! We know that the convenience of park and ride lots is really important. They make it easier for people to choose to use transportation. We will certainly take your suggestion into consideration as the recommended plan is developed.

  • June 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    A question for next time: BRT can range from something very close to a regular bus system to a true ‘train on rubber tires.’ What are the assumptions about the quality of BRT system underlying the ballpark BRT budget numbers we’ve heard?

    Similarly, is the longer BRT travel time (compared with RRT) entirely attributable to the greater number of stops, or would the system also be slowed by fare payment, traffic lights, etc?

  • June 9, 2015 at 12:47 am

    At the kick off to this process, we were told that a 76 member task force would be developing the transit options. Why is the membership of that task force not public? I have not been able to find it on the website. The logical place the put it on the website would be under “Who’s Involved”, but only the governmental agencies are listed there.

    These people are representing the public. We should be able to know who they are.

      • June 11, 2015 at 1:23 am

        Thanks for the Post. I did notice a couple of issues. One is that Octavia Rainey is from North Central CAC, not South Central. Also you have Jason Hibbets listed 3 times.

        I would have emailed you, but there isn’t a contact email anywhere on the website. Adding one and a phone number somewhere, maybe under Feedback, might be a good idea.

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